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Brexit 2016

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I will be voting to Leave Europe.

what about you?

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Boris did look like a broken man didn't he.
And if you're to believe a lot of what was said, he didn't even want to leave anyway.

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He did, I honestly don't think he thought he would win. If he did he would have had a detailed plan he could have delivered to settle those who voted stay and use the win to catapult himself into leadership.

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I mean he did look broken

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Surprisingly, people are still spending money. Good sign. Initially I thought were all fucked, but maybe be it'll be alright.

Jeremy corbyn, who has the most important job to do, needed, needs, to do more.

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Bigtime. If was some some of conscious attempt to not gloat and give a calm measured response it didn't work. He looked fucking terrified lol

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Talking about Boris there but could nearly extend that to Corbyn too. Labours position in the whole thing has been a bit baffling. Half hearted

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Jesus would you listen to the lot of ye, you'd think the world was collapsing around us... that governments don't have plans for all these sorts of eventualities.. were the 5th largest economy in the world ffs I think the UK will be perfectly able to ride out this storm and if anything it's the EU that's shitting itself as it's just lost a major net contributor and will suddenly find a rather large hole in its annual budget not to mention it's plans to integrate another bunch of useless countries like the huge powerhouse economies of the Balkan states... the remain camp lost boofuckinghoo and instead of accepting defeat and getting on with job of disentangling ourselves in the best manner possoble they're now resorting to doom and gloom as opposed to the fearmongering before the referendum

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I think Corbyn hates eu and his heart wasn't in defending them. Same as pbp were against them because of their socialist views and the EU's links to austerity and class division

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The government thought they'd win rj

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Tbf I thought they'd win as well

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Don't think anyone's getting all doom and gloom. Just talking about what is *actually* happening, right at this moment. Real facts and happenings, not the opinions and potentials, which is all that has been put forward by the leave campaign, as far as I have seen. Has the lead figures in the leave campaign actually said anything at all relevant yet? lol. It just seems completely lacking any sort of leadership or drive. Awk sure, it'll be grand once we don't have to give Europe any money....... cool plan bro!

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The doom and gloom comes from where the vote was one. Seems to be narrow minded Englanders as far as I can tell. Wake up call for me as far as the kind of dominant attitudes out there on the back of the local elections. My circle of friends doesn't seem to reflect it at all which worries me

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*won

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Dont know where we're headed. Referendum isnt legally binding apparently but no MP never mind a majority will have the balls to stand up and say fuck it this is madness its not happening. Think it brought out a lot of people who dont normally vote, who dont really have a clue and a lot of closet racists.

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"Now some pundits are suggesting that the real lesson of Brexit is that ordinary Britons are bearing an unacceptable economic cost from immigration, and that elites should heed that lesson and think about restricting immigration to other Western countries to prevent a similar populist backlash.

There’s just one problem: this narrative isn’t actually true. Data shows that Britain wasn’t suffering harmful economic effects from too many new migrants.

What Britain was suffering from too much of, however, was xenophobia — fear and hatred of immigrants. Bigotry on the basis of national origin.

That’s not something you give into, and close the borders. It’s something you fight.

British xenophobia is not rational.

Immigration has surged in the UK in recent years: the number of foreign-born people living in the UK has gone from 2.3 million in 1993 (when Britain joined the EU) to 8.2 million in 2014.

The surge was a result (in part but not in whole) of EU rules allowing citizens of of EU countries to move and work freely in any other EU member country.

Pro-Leave campaigners, and sympathetic observers in the media, argued that this produced a reasonable skepticism of immigration’s effect on the economy — and Brexit was the result.

"The force that turned Britain away from the European Union was the greatest mass migration since perhaps the Anglo-Saxon invasion," Atlantic editor David Frum writes. "Migration stresses schools, hospitals, and above all, housing."

Yet there’s a problem with that theory: British hostility to immigrants long proceeds the recent spate of mass immigration."

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Brtiain is actually the sixth largest economy RJ... It dropped a place behind france after the brexit vote...

but I agree they should stop stalling and get down to business next week... instead of kicking back to October

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Good to see Hilary Benn organising a coup this weekend to exploit the leadership problems of the tories to the maximum... 4 months of choosing a new labour leader 9 months later is just what the party needs to be doing now

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So many lies told very badly managed Cameron should never have let this happen. But it is what it is. If we cant block it get on with it. There is no way Arlene will block it, Sturgeon is our only hope. There is a get out clause in the agreement for Devolution of the Scotish and Ni assemblys that could apparently stop it from going ahead.

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I voted remain from an economic viewpoint but now that its happened, i'm kind of looking forward to it and want the EU to push it forward asap. Get a second referendum in Scotland and their independence and then the North can push for a referendum off the back of it. Union fucked, good luck on your own England/Wales

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Yeah... you think that will wash with the 17 million people that voted for a Brexit?

the ones complaining their voices are never heard being told that they're now being ignored on a technicallity...

It would be somewhat ironic given the tories line of attack in the last election that a vote for Ed was a vote for the SNP

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We'll hilary benn is gone... so that one good outcome takki

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it's not going to happen. Article 5o will not be released and referendums will never be held again in a nation state as diverse as us, Great Britain.
only worse than the little England mentality is little Ireland hoping for a 32 county Nation on the back of our English brothers and sisters being fucked over.
As an IRA apologist I am not going to let that happen.
Or indeed are all the British intellegista.

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talking about this all night there with me pals. never thought i'd ever say the words "fuck democracy", but fuck democracy.
Democracy is too a beautiful thing to be entrusted to just anybody off the street in 2016.
From now on you should have to prove yourself capable of making decisions, like a driving license.
- a democractic license.

Or, do we already have that with the HoC. How about they, intelligent people we entrust for making decisons actually decide what's right? Fuck, there's an idea.

Scrap this referedum and let's never have one on such a basic issue ever again.

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i think overall this is a good lesson for females everywhere. the divorce anology that keeps coming up. so we made a mistake, everyone is entitled to 1 mistake in a relationship, it's no reason to be irrational and stop talking. stop being irrational eu, so we made a mistake. it's not the end of the World. let's talk about it. who is being irrational now?? you think you're so fucking perfect don't you? well you're not! don't even know why i liked you in the first place yeah fuck off then. Fuck off. you'll miss me when I'm gone. Brexit.
we'll be alright on our own.

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sorry i didn't mean that. please let's talk. it's nothing without you about. we made a mistake i know that now. i wasn't thinking straight, i know I dropped the ball but I'm sorry and I will never do it again. please, please let's talk. we can fix this situation.

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who do you think you are?? miss fucking perfect? you're not! you're not. why do you think we done this in the first place? god I hate you. think you're so fucking perfect, you sel. Brexit.

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I'm sorry

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The UK is gonna have to start hanging out in singles bars again even though its in its late 50s

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www.hellou.co.uk/2016/...

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mad

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Second EU referendum petition investigated for fraud - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...

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This second referendum and online petition bullshit is ridiculous. You had a democratic vote, you go with the majority. If people were too stupid to look into the consequences of their vote and now want to change, tough shit. There was plenty of time to investigate before the polling day and if you weren't aware of the facts, you should have stayed at home. Its incredibly dangerous territory to enter if the government can keep calling referendums until they get their desired outcome.

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Didn't they do it down south?

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yeah they did so it be done. better idea is just for the people we elect and who get paid for working on these matters just overrule the decision.

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Why is everyone banging on about "what's the plan now" do people really think that the Brexit campaigners had a plan on what to do afterwards? They where bloody campaigners ffs not a government it's up to the government to come up with a plan on how best to disengage from the EU now that the people voted out de fuck and now we're hearing European head of states saying they want to stay friends ffs tbf did they really think Merkel was going to punish us with so many Germans involved in the manufacturing industry of which we are responsible for a massive chunk every other car on our streets is German

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Yeah, they did it in the south and it was a disgrace then too. I hope they try to negotiate a better package for a second referendum and the EU tells them to go fuck themselves

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They all said cameron should resign in the event of a vote to leave.... Why would they not have a plan for what happens next...

Osbourne had a plan ... an emergency austerity budget but they said they wouldn't stand for the tax rises

They were told there would be economic turmiol and the experts were dismissed.

Now we hear the massive drop in the Pound will lead to rising food prices.

Of course europoean leaders want to stay friends but you haven't seen the terms offered for exit yet... and they will want to prevent other countries getting the same idea... Look how quickly they shot down the idea this was going to drag on into the autumn

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I wonder what the mood will be when they realise all the immigrants aren't going to be packed onto trains and sent out of the country.

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Speaking off Osbourne where is he lol

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You mean all us leavers thought we would kick the immigrants out once we won?

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Im surprised i havent seen reports on the news of locals running into the polska food shops with pitchforks yet

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many in England seem to... you know I'm now one for sweeping generalisations

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I sincerely doubt anyone was under any illusion that if we voted out that we'd kick out all the immigrant's

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Anecdotally, I'd say your wrong

www.theguardian.com/po...

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What no pitchforks?
LOL at this guy, his politic opinion is about as well formed as his haircut.
bs.twimg.com/media/Clz...

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Labour shadow cabinet dropping like flies. Corbyn looks to be in trouble.

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FX market reopened, GBP down 1.8% against the dollar

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Serious clusterfuck happening. Labour in tatters. No pm and country in turmoil. The pound will continue to fall too.

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