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Good documentary on 4 now. What a mentalist. The definition of arrogant. Imagine the banter* if he was President?

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Skilzki Boykins2 days ago
pray for trump, he is risking his life for us all

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Mm. The Clinton aspects maybe. But the corporate capture aspects of it are right. No paranoia needed

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Trump caught on video telling rich friends at the 21 Club, ‘We’ll get your taxes down — don’t worry about it’

www.deathandtaxesmag.c...

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jesus wept..

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Being sold a bag of magic beans...henceforth to be known as Brexit Beans

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Trump administration will ban lobbyists, enact five-year lobbying ban after leaving government

www.washingtonpost.com...

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Imagine he ended up being a whopper president.

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Yeah ... hold that thought...

"The policy comes after days of criticism over Trump’s inclusion of lobbyists on the transition team, despite his campaign pledge to keep special interests out of Washington.

On its face, the lobbyist ban appears stringent, but it could be easily skirted if a lobbyist were to deregister to be eligible to join the administration. One sign indicates that it may already be happening: A close aide to Pence who is a Washington lobbyist, "

Now think about the fact that he's will get the chance to appoint at least 1 and possibly 5 supreme court judges (going by the previous conservative judges) will tilt the electoral balance of power further in favour of monied interests.

You can bet the attempt by the democrats to repeal the citisens united ruling is going nowhere fast.

There will be nothing done at a federal level to limit the republican effort at voter suppression...

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We're you birther RP?.. Casting my mind I'm almost sure you posted a link castng doubt om the birth cert Obama eventually released

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hope that's the case. Complete idiots in charge but if you give idiots great responsibility ...
responsibility is such a drug, for want of a better word.

Administration has got a clean slate with me. You'd like to think these Climate deniers might get educated on it, now they Have to meet with climate scientists round a table on some week day.

I just don't see how USA will end up in divs. Britain Yes.
But not America.

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there's just too many guns for our state to fail.

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this is a grim read and indictment on your generation of trolls & feminists

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2 Brits there though. I just don't think they get America.

In fact, didn't we throw them out.

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Was I a birther? What is the criteria?

A few US blogs I followed cast doubt on the birth cert and I remember asking if anyone familiar with Photoshop could address the questions they raised.
I do remember people basically saying little or nothing to debunk their theories. Had to go elsewhere to get some details.

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jesus RP i didnt think you went full retard on that non issue, the reason people said little or nothing to debunk was probably down to the absolute ludicrousness of it all... i mean really, thats faked moon landing shite.. tsk tsk

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Surely photoshopping a President's Birth Cert isn't going to get past the full powers and records of a Government lol

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thats why the whole thing was so fucking stupid... aye sure any aul cunt can be president and not a thing is checked... oh wait any aul cunt can be president...

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To explain...I had no idea what could or couldn't be done with those types of apps. The blogger was discussing a few technicalities which the whole argument hinged on really. He was saying there was obvious and pathetically simple manipulation of the document. I just asked if anyone knew what he was on about. There is a difference here in trying to understand what the augment was and going full retard RJ.

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In fact at least I sought to critically analyse what the arguments were rather than just calling them nutbars. It's the only way to actually work through all the conspiracy stuff out there and take away some of the more plausible aspects.

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Surely the first step in the critical analysis of the claim would be to ask why that the secret controllers of the world have to install a Kenyan as the president of the United States?

Is it really possible that the wasn't a single capable individual amongst the 3.3 million African American Muslims already living in the states.

Once you have a think about the ridiculousness of the conceit, then you realise it can only be a crude, xenophobic, isalmophobic, racist attempt to de-legitimise the Obama and his agenda...

or that it was a cleverly crafted trolling effort that went gonzo
(www.independent.co.uk/... )

That so many people wanted to and still do believe it... that can only be wilful ignorance, mendacity or sheer stupidity

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What websites is yer man Paul Horner behind? I like the cut of his jib.

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RP.com • 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In fact at least I sought to critically analyse what the arguments were rather than just calling them nutbars

by actually doing that you are legitimizing their arguments by giving them the time of day instead of dismissing them as the nutbars they are.. too much time on yer hands m8

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" Surely the first step in the critical analysis of the claim would be to ask why that the secret controllers of the world have to install a Kenyan as the president of the United States?"

That's way too difficult a question to hit these people with. That's like opening a Pandoras box of false flags and freemasons. Much easier to point out that the manipulation they were talking about was incorrect on the technical side of things.

You talk of legitimising their argument RJ but Obama did publish it in the end. So it was a legitimate issue going by what you are saying. Acknowledged by the POTUS no less. I agree it was up there with the best of nutbar theories.

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Obama published it because it had gained so much traction amongst the idiot masses in Amerika and to think he had to shake hands with the orange cunt who perpetuated it

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Paul Horner 'satire'

abcnews.com.co/donald-...

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Same with me. Was on Obamas side the whole time. UPPA KENYANS!!

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jesus wept like...

As for who these people were affiliated with that interviewed me, my guess would be Hillary Clinton’s campaign,” Horner said. “The actual check I received after I was done with the job was from a group called ‘Women Are The Future’. After I was hired, they told me if anyone asked any questions about who I was with or communicated with me in any way, I should start talking about how great Bernie Sanders is.” Horner continued, “It was mostly women in their 60’s at the interview that I went to. Plus, all the people that I communicated with had an AOL email address. No one still has an AOL email address except people that would vote for Hillary Clinton.”

any wonder America now has Donald Reality TV Star Trump as fucking president when they believe such obvious shite

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So... say trump continues to populate the upper echelons of the American government with his motley band of white nationalists and racists ...
(he just offered the position of Attorney general offered to the man deemed to racist to be a judge)

Or disturbing actual evidence of Trump being a Kremlin puppet

Do you think the electoral college would be safeguarding America from the slide to totalitarianism by returning Kilary as the president or would it be overstepping its bounds?

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A form of totalitarianism already exists in the US and Sanders was the only candidate that came close to articulating what that was.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...

We are not far behind here in the UK. The machine is not as well oiled as in the US.

Now, Trump is a maniac judging so far. However, Clinton was exactly the person those benefiting from that inverted totalitarianism arrangement in the US would have as their representative. Why America was given such an disgusting choice really does make me worried in the sense that there is no way out. You're gonna get hammered either way.

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I suppose that was one of the choices in the US election... a vote for inverted totalitarianism with the potential for reform

or a vote for inverted totalitarian with the potential for the full- on variety

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"Donald's been warming them up for years about the media being corrupt"

The US media is certainly full of absolute shite. The media here is full of bollocks as well, but not as much. Its not a conspiracy, it's true though.

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www.holyfucktheelectio...

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donald trump has been planning this for years. a new dawn is here, give it time.

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Clearing out the closet - www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor...

Maybe he's turned over a new leaf lads

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*gold leaf

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iob.imgur.com/uYGg/DHJ...

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lol@ at the gif

probably less to do with turning over a new leaf and more to do preventing the courts properly examining what was going on

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Trump is a clown and has the mental capacity of an half eaten apple left in a bin for a week but....

A part of me is happy. Clinton was so corrupt I wouldn't have her as elected as dog catcher, if that's a role. If his election has some or any input in ending the pest of identity politics than again, it's long run a plus. If his election will end (and it looks likely) arming and funding of violent Jihadis in Syria then yes, that is a plus.

Bill Maher called it right, the left in America called Wolf too many times. When we really have a monster on our hands then noone buys it anymore. This also ended the hold the "mainstream media" had on peoples ideas or feelings.

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It amazing for such an incredibly corrupt politician that after some many investigations, by so many people so invested in locking her up... they haven't been able to turn up anything.

Trumps campaign was based on identity politics... that the problems problems of white America are the fault of everybody else except the billionaire...

You really thing Trump siding with Putin and Assad to blanket bomb Isil out of existence, while expanding Gitmo and enhanced interrogation is going to stem the flow of weapons and fresh recruits to ME jihadis.lol.

While saying the left cried wolf too many times kinda misses the point that the republicans candidates have got progressively more unsavoury over time... I remember thinking Bush the first hadn't been so bad when GW took the reins... now even GW doesn't look so bad

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Bill Maher is an arse hole.

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Not been able to turn anything up? Pav, do not even begin with that shit.

Identity? Apart from African Americans, Trump seemed to do a lot better than expected among the "identities" in the US. The Democratic obsession with slicing and dicing groups up based on gender or race etc didn't work out too well. The idea that all Hispanics will always vote Democratic due to some nebulous commitment to an open border didn't and never will work out either. Either they, or their sons and daughters will always to a certain extent gain some "Conservative" opinions.

ISIS and Assad. The absolute horror of what the US has done in that country and the absolute wretches US, Gulf States & UK taxpayer money supports makes me sick. The sooner the country is back to normal the better. SAA are gonna win, get used to it, despite US funding of Al Qaeda affiliates. Take a night out in West Aleppo, when our good friends the rebels aren't indiscriminately shelling it that is, and see the difference for yourself : Nightlife, free Women, secuarlism.

Everytime I see the word Rebel in our newspapers I recoil. There isn't one element who aren't either in league or totally beside groups who wish the downfall of everything Western civilisation believes in.

Trump means one thing. Those who have depended on Identity politics (as in, my own identity within a group is the most important thing) is dead. These "groups" the Dems depended on, rather than persuading with their arguments didn't appear dog whistle like to vote for a corrupt woman who, people recoiled from.

As a socialist, I believe Sanders would have handily cleaned Trumps clock. But it was the democrats who created Nafta, who sidled up to Wall street and who got fascinated in bathrooms. Look the other way if you want, but when we forgot about making arguments and just decided to call everyone an idiot we lost.

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Just because people on the internet tell you repeatedly that Hilary is corrupt doesn't mean its true... nor do a few vague emails on wikileaks, nor spoofed stories about millions of pound being transferred to Qatar.

What clubs did you check out the last time you were in Aleppo?

Its rather charming that you think Syria is going to revert to it normal police state any thing soon... especially now that the president elect has decided to agree with The Jihadis that there is indeed a battle of the civilisations.

It odd that you think of your self as a socialist when think trump is step up from clinton

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Do you actually recoil?... like if you were in a coffee shop reading the news... you'd physically flinch?

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Your assumption of my lack of information on Hilary in your problem, not mine. One example, the Donna Brazille scandal. Explain that.

I've followed the Syrian conflict more closely in the past 6 years than you, I'd wager. In fact, you messaged me before about information about it. If you have a question, I'll be happy to answer it.

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What will happen thereafter, is anyones guess. I hope it doesn't fall into the hands of "our friends" however. If you had even the first idea of the conflict, perhaps you'd agree. Maybe as a Christian, you should try a night in Idlib, or Al Bab.

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I did not say he was a Stepup, so please don't put words in my mouth.

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I have a Mac at the minute, which is preventing me from scrolling, so thats why I'm replying post by post!

Yes, I do recoil. Do some research Pav. We can talk Trump or talk Syria or whatever, but please, your assumption of my ignorance, because I disagree, is proving my point.

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Lol. Clinton was so corrupt a reporter leaked her a debate question.

No doubt you have been following the syrian war more closely than me... but it funny to see you get on like your in downtown Aleppo at the weekend, grabbing secular honeys by the pussy.

I'm not a christian by the way... but why would I want to visit Iblib or Al Bab only to barrel bombed by the Syrian government ... maybe get a dose of chlorine gas dropped on me too

I'm sorry I assumed that you thought Trump was a step up from Clinton... you seem to think there were positives about his presidency but you think she couldn't even be trusted as a dog catcher. my bad

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"A Reporter". A Superdelegate, DIRECTLY involved in her election, who now is the Chairwomen of the Democratic party. This isn't to you a scandal or corruption? How on earth could you spin this pav.

Your pussy comments I'll disregard.

With regards to Syria...your obvious complete lack of information on the who, where and why is apparent. I'm not blaming you. As a non-Christian you would be not be safe now in these places however - adherence to a specific form of Islam would be required. Before the "uprising", this was not the case, people did actually live in peace with one another. Please do not dispute this, as it is a fact.

There are positives in my mind, no matter how foolish, stupid and awful that man is. I saw her equally bad, for other reasons.

Pav, for heavens sake - do not assume those who voted for him are all the worst of the earth, are racist or sexist or whatever. This obsession over imagined slights or where someones getting their cake baked GAVE US HIM. People do not give a fuck about this shit.

Yes, I am a Socialist and I'd rather burn my ballot (If I had one!) than vote for her.

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What Brazille did was wrong... there is not spinning it but did clinton make her do it?

You assume that I'm unaware of the nature the jihadi rebels in Syria... but Assad is responsible for turning the political protests against the brutality of his regime into a sectarian conflict and nurturing the rise of the extremists in his country. He knew he could rely on the russians to help him out in the end.
Before the people lived in peace apart from the ones passing through his torture factories... things were not all rosy in Syria before 2011. It was consistently topping the human rights abuse charts

Where have I said trump voters are the worst? As I stated earlier in the thread they have been sold a load of lies by a billionaire who will make their lives worse.

Would you say the identity politics of telling the Orange Order and their supporters they are bigots are the kind of things that led to trump?
Most people on here seem to okay with that.

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