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Good documentary on 4 now. What a mentalist. The definition of arrogant. Imagine the banter* if he was President?

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For example I was chatting to a guy from Iraqi Kurdistan last week about Isil, the Iraqi government, and all things middle eastern.

Rather than spend the time pontificating on my western media based ideas of life in the region I listen to what he had to sya about then. I learned a lot. Conversely when we were discussing the politics in northern ireland he deferred to my superior knowledge. There was no victimhood...

just an acknowledgement that other people impacted by a situation often have a better perspective on that situation than those that are not.

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Usually African Americans are complaining that their opinions and perspectives are not being taken on board.

less often do you hear of them complaining that they find it insulting to be given the space to share their views.

funny that

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butr then I guess you from you white european perspective would probably be better placed to know what they find insulting and what would make them want to throw themselves off the roof...

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Simply based on where he came from you sat there rapt. He could have been a fucking idiot did that cross your mind? Although to give your partner the benefit of the doubt... I don't think it's true that people impacted by a situation are at all better able to explain it. Lot of dudes I know think ISIS are run from Tel Aviv. They're from Syria but it doesn't automatically make them Henry Kissinger.

The things you're talking about addressing or even mentioning what I said. Shutting people up on account of their race or gender which is completely wrong.

Right?

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I was interested in hearing his perspective... rather than telling him how it was.

The woman in the video is talking about preventing white people from dominating the discussions and not allowing black voices to be heard... as shes to shut white voices down when they interrupting black voices talking about issues. So you seem to be somewhat in agreement

I only mention those thing because you seemed to equate listen to other peoples perspectives as some kind of victim hood. I was merely demonstrating it wasn't.

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It all still hinging on those poor minorities having a white champion to give them a 'space' and 'chance' to speak. How noble of her/us. A chance to speak about... Race and being in a minority.

Even if not pandering, it's absurd and when both the opposite of equity.

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It isn't hinging on that at all. Rather than just trolling the internet to find things to get offended about, use it to educate yourself. You might find yourself less angry with the world

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I thought she was talking shite

like the other end of the spectrum compared to that black lives matter woman on CNN that time who wouldn't call that attack on a white disabled kid racist because it was done by bleck teenagers.

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the woman refusing to condemn the abuse of the white disabled kid as racist doesn't invalidate the point the woman in the video was making.

Would you imagine a bunch of liberal folk living on the malone road would be best placed telling people in east or west belfast how to deal with the issues affecting their communities?

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the liberal folk prob be talking more sense to be honest and this is coming from a westie.

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black lives matter retarded white kid/hot white chick who hates white people>>>>>retardation. destruction. cancer.

Feminists have a Lot to answer for.

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"When we get onto dicey subjects I often tell then to let me know if they feel i'm not giving due weight to their opinion or have been in some way insensitive."

Hahahahahahahahaha. Aye pav thats exactly how you come across on here.

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You know I've been against Trump & his faux-Fascist clowns since day 1, mainly because Trump isn't a Fascist.

A Fascist is someone who loves the military/war. Trump doesn't have the military on his side.
The military not being on his side, the side of ..... what? How do you explain him. "The side of pure idiocy and reactionary stuff"

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The military not being on his side is our dawn's boring light. Can't wait to we move beyond the age of democracy, shut down Twitter and get back to some Darwinian situation where smart, healthy blokes who haven't spent a lifetime on Facebook reproduce with smart, healthy females who haven't spent a lifetime on Twitter.

this is a stark reminder

The internet, for all it's easy access to pornography and music, almost killed the character of humanity. I'd be ashamed to have anything to do with it after this Friday coming up and T2.

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The internet gives everyone a reason to feel victimised. And the nefarious nihilists will always win that race to the bottom.

I'm gonna start buying newspapers again. A reborn, worldwide journalistic, vinylisticesque resurgence is needed. Pay for what you read.
Of course, you need to know how to read and how to decipher truth from untruth.
Darwinism in action.

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These Assad, Ruski loving anti-Obamaists residing in the West.

I hope they get what they deserve.

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including dvmc and his alternative for Germany schmuck.

Nazi bastards

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So many balloons fail to see how good Pax Americana has been for us all. It does my head in listening to them. Long live Pax Americana! DEUS VULT!

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We have a responsibility to bring that Globally. It's not going to happen but through people like Bush W & Blair.

Imagine if the White House knew about Putin and Assad in 2001.

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Look at those 2 worm names compared to a number like 2001.

I don't feel any better/stronger/safer having those 2 bullies fill the western guilt void after 2003.

We need to off Trump asap.

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God has given us this position of power in the West. If we desert out potential for the sake of pax amerixnca that's short sighted and defeating and probably terminal too. I'm not having that.

Kill Trump. Then let's go after a fair for with Putin & Russia, the KGB, Communist author's of popularism.

Soviet Union could only wish for the impact FSB having in the West right now.

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But like every other modal of interaction in CW history. The Reds will lose again.

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"A Fascist is someone who loves the military/war. "

Any other words you'd like to redefine? Cus you can do that you know? You can just pick words, and then decide that they mean something else entirely.

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Well cleandirty, when RP asked me to be less condescending i really tried my hardest, except in posts where only a good dose of condescension was the only reasonable response. And just recently I've taken on board that dvmc doesn't like when people draw parallels between the views he espouses here and the view found on alt-right web sites and online media such as breitbart. So I have stopped pointing that out.

Out of all the posters on the forum, I have been the most indulging of Kevs entirely un-nuanced worldview that the west is entirely responsible for the ills of the world (because he read it on a kremlin funded blog). I have taken time out of my schedule to talk him through the issues...
A lot of other posters just insulted him, I engaged with him. I admit there was a little light trolling to keep the 'debate' entertaining but kevs is a robust guy. He gave as good as he got.

Then there was blurt, whose views I probably lent too much weight too
I suppose there was aLegend but his views were fairly rancid.

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www.papermag.com/georg...

Alternative facts boosting 1984 sales

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www.therobotspajamas.c...

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You can't redefine words though.
That's exactly what a Fascist is. It's somebody who believes in the act of militarism to further their agenda. I don't think Trump desires this, hence he is not a Fascist.

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It's not.

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Kornilov is just presenting an alternativly factual meaning of the word

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Yeooooo

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That's pretty cool.

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He's going to be raging. Photo of the year.

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photoshopped?

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No, genuine.

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class

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Live video.

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Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border - www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor...

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www.theverge.com/2017/...

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Wikileaks going after Trump now

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e-daily.buzz/a/wikilea...

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Should be no end of stuff about him

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I'd be suprised if some hero doesn't decide to take a shot at him. Caused so much division

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One or a few scientists at NASA appear to have started a rogue Twitter account

usuncut.com/resistance...

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I had submitted an application for a fellowship in the states at the start of Jan. Wonder if that will get fucked up because of all this :/

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Trump wanting to get torture going again...

Donald Trump says torture 'absolutely works' in first major interview as President

Mr Trump was asked by ABC News about his campaign trail promises to bring back waterboarding “and tougher” in the battle to defeat Isis. Mr Trump cited the group’s atrocities against Christians and said “we have to fight fire with fire”.

“When they're shooting, when they're chopping off the heads of our people and other people, when they're chopping off the heads of people because they happen to be a Christian in the Middle East, when Isis is doing things that nobody has ever heard of since Medieval times, would I feel strongly about waterboarding?" he said.

"I have spoken with people at the highest level of intelligence and I asked them the question 'Does it work? Does torture work?' and the answer was 'Yes, absolutely'.

"They chop them off and they put them on camera and send them all over the world. So we have that and we're not allowed to do anything?” he added.

www.independent.co.uk/...

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Jesus. Sounds like a chat down the pub

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i have no problem whatsoever with letting our intelligence agencies employ whatever means they think necessary in order to extract information that could potentially save lives

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